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Old 06-03-2007, 05:15 AM   #1
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The bans continue

http://gamersreunion.wordpress.com/2...w/#comment-196
http://philcrissman.com/2006/09/25/b...clear-reasons/
http://worldofwarcraft.groups.vox.co...ee8026a47.html


These links, as well as the warcry and ign forums have been showing that a great number of innocent players are being banned in a whirlwind purge of blizzard's.

I am currently looking for more people who received the letter about ruining the 'essence' of wow and 'possibly' having associated with exploitative characters.

For any players caught in this wave of bans by accident, please file a report with
http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Bu...anyID=13050668
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:30 AM   #2
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It's interesting to note that in your first link quite a few people admitted to using a Power Leveling service. After which they were banned.

I'm not going to bother reading the rest. Power Leveling = ban.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:46 AM   #3
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People who really don't do anything wrong don't get banned. It's as simple as that.

The 'my friend', 'my son', 'my dog' did it excuses didn't work for mom and dad (hopefully) and they aren't going to work for Blizzard either...maybe they did work for mom and dad and that's why people think they'll work now.

If you don't like the rules that Bliz puts out in the user agreement, don't play the game. If you choose to play, and choose to break those rules, don't whine about it when you get banned.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:02 AM   #4
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Yeah, 9 times out of 10, it's always a case of "Well, my Son did this..." or "My kid cousin didn't want to ruin his account, so he tried it on mine..." blah blah blah.

The truth is that folks are getting caught, rather red handed I might add, in the act of using power level'ing services, or buying vast sums of gold. You might not get nailed RIGHT NOW, but given enough "Red Flags" to your account & they'll eventually shut you down.

Play online from your IP in Spokane, Washington for the last 2 years on average from the hours of 5pm-12 midnight, then...all of a sudden, "you" start logging in at 1am & playing till 4pm every day, from an IP based in Eastern Europe or a Province of China? Or that the largest sum of gold you ever had at one time was 600g. All of a sudden, you had an influx of 4,000g from "Generous Doners", all of which have been fed gold from various "Overseas Accounts". Hmmm....odd, eh? The math adds up. Albeit, at times, very slowely.

It's only the EVERY NOW AND THEN actual innocent person that gets banned, all because they were just one of those "Once in a lifetime event of getting to go overseas for 2 weeks vacation" or one of those rash of great Epic World drops of some random kind from a 2nd account you actually own, you sold for premium gold and you're now sending that gold over to your main account. It does happen, sure.

But that often? I think not.
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:13 AM   #5
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The interesting add is that a colleague's cousin, High Warlord on one of the servers, sold gold to one of the gold buying companies. His account was banned. Now he is trying to spin them the same story apparently saying "His account was hacked ... blah blah". And what is his evil master plan? To sell the character once he gets it unbanned so he can go to University untroubled by World of Warcraft.

I don't trust people like that, nor do I trust it when somebody spins the same sop story like Kneash says "Well, my son did this" or "My kid cousin didn't want to ..."
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:39 AM   #6
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Wow... Get a shovel for all of the crap the corporate fanbois are spewing!!!

Sure, some people get banned for a reason... But some of you have your nose shoved so far up that you can't even see that Blizzard has gone way overboard with this last round of bans, and LOT of innocent people have definitely gotten caught up in it. You'd be singing a much different tune, if you were one of them.

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:03 AM   #7
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Wow... Get a shovel for all of the crap the corporate fanbois are shovelling!!!

Sure, some people get banned for a reason... But some of you have your nose shoved so far up that you can't even see that Blizzard has gone way overboard with this last round of bans, and LOT of innocent people have definitely gotten caught up in it. You'd be singing a much different tune, if you were one of them.

Banned recently, eh?

Seriously...this is called "Common Sense" look it up sometimes. It truely is enlightening.

Anyways...how a person can seriously try to argue against this, is nuts. Here, I'll give you a little "Insider Info" on how a company can go about making sure it's Corporate Arse is FREE AND CLEAR of ANY LEGAL LITIGATION:

1) They either see suspicious activity, or suspicious activity is reported to them by a user (or users).
2) They then watch these folks and/or the accounts that're current suspect.
3) They then look at every aspect of the actual user account in question (IP address, Name, Credit Card/Debit Card Info (location of bank/ect)) and begin to start connecting any visible "Dots".
4) Any & all chat logs are looked at, transactions made (Auction House, Bank, Mail, ect) What went were, when, how much. Was anything sold to a vendor? How much? Was anything DE'd? If so, what? The list goes on and on.


Remember...every time...EVERY TIME....you log onto WoW, you log in and your IP address is recorded. "User with account name "Soandso" logged in today at 04:34am (PST) from IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.X" Now...it is one thing to have that IP address fluxuate slightly here and there (some IP's randomly change 'Your' IP address, but the core IP is still the same, if anyone does any digging (of course Blizzard digs). Also, everything you possible say in game (things you actually TYPE OUT) are recorded. Everything. Naturally, nothing is ever looked at until they being to eyeball you. But if they get in there and start to see "Hey, look at this: User "Soandso" told User "Billybob1" that his login name & password was...then the next day, the guy from "Billybob1"'s IP address logged into "Soandso"'s account". Also, when multiple IP's are used, they look at WHERE and WHEN they're used. If you're say...a businessman, or on vacation, traveling all over Europe, you won't remain in the same place, all the time. So if they see a 2 day IP log in from an IP in Spain, then 3 days later a 1 day IP address from France, then a 4 day IP address from Europe, then finally back to your "normal IP" in the States, then they might say "Oh, this guy was just on vacation in Europe, we have chatlogs showing he was going there from the previous week."

But if any of the above said text doesn't "Match up", then they start really looking at you in a negative light. Then the "Maybe's" and "Possibly's" become "Pretty much so's" and "Probably's".

Do I work for Blizzard? No. Is this common sense practices for a company that wants to avoid legal action from folks who have a beef from them? Sure as heck is. They ban 10,000 accounts. What happens? Nothing, because of those 10k accounts that got banned, far less than 500 (rough guesstimate on my part) were Accidental bannings, or had suspicous activity that ends up being "Explained Away."

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:04 AM   #8
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Wow... Get a shovel for all of the crap the corporate fanbois are spewing!!!

Sure, some people get banned for a reason... But some of you have your nose shoved so far up that you can't even see that Blizzard has gone way overboard with this last round of bans, and LOT of innocent people have definitely gotten caught up in it. You'd be singing a much different tune, if you were one of them.

guessing you got banned ...


Some innocent people get hit but they should be able to petition Blizz and get the accounts restored. The people that actually power leveled and bought gold will not get them back.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:27 AM   #9
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@Tanitha: Agreed.

Especially when the person claiming 'their son' did it has the posting 'voice' of a 14 year old. Makes it very hard to swallow.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:31 AM   #10
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I read through many of the complaints and the ones that disturb me are when someone logs in and finds their account hacked. They report it and the next thing you know they are banned. I have never been banned from any mmorpg that i have ever played but you know what, I would be pretty upset if I one day found that i was banned. If i log into my wifes account from my comp or vice versa will that get me banned?...Is it considered account sharing if i were to log onto her account when we both have our own accounts that we both payed for with our collective family money? What add ons are safe and what ones may have a keylogger on them?...How can you tell? I do belive that some people are falsely banned. Just as much as I believe most are justly banned. But I would not want to be one of the few innocents. Especially seeing how badly they are treated when the come onto a forum like this asking for help or understanding and get nothing but "you deserved it" the fact is innocent people do sometimes get falsely accused. I am not saying it is often but it does happen.
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